SNOAA35D April   2023  – December 2023 LM2901 , LM2901B , LM2901B-Q1 , LM2903 , LM2903-Q1 , LM2903B , LM2903B-Q1 , LM339 , LM339-N , LM393 , LM393-N , LM393B , LM397 , TL331 , TL331-Q1 , TL331B

 

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  2.   Application Design Guidelines for LM339, LM393, TL331 Family Comparators Including the New B-versions
  3.   Trademarks
  4. 1 Devices Covered in Application Note
    1. 1.1 Base Part Numbers
    2. 1.2 Input Voltage Offset Grades
    3. 1.3 Maximum Supply Voltage
    4. 1.4 High Reliability Options
  5. 2 The New TL331B, TL391B, LM339B, LM393B, LM2901B and LM2903B B Versions
    1. 2.1 PCN to Change Classic Die to a New Die Design
      1. 2.1.1 Determine Die Used for Single TL331 and Dual LM293, LM393, and LM2903
      2. 2.1.2 Determine Die Used for Quad LM139, LM239, LM339, and LM2901
      3. 2.1.3 Device PCN Summary
    2. 2.2 Changes to Package Top Markings
  6. 3 Input Considerations
    1. 3.1  Input Stage Schematic – The Classic LM339 Family
    2. 3.2  Input Stage Schematic - New B Devices
    3. 3.3  Differences Between the Classic and B Die Devices
    4. 3.4  Input Voltage Range
    5. 3.5  Input Voltage Range vs. Common Mode Voltage Range
    6. 3.6  Reason for Input Range Headroom Limitation
    7. 3.7  Input Voltage Range Feature
      1. 3.7.1 Both Inputs Above Input Range Behavior
    8. 3.8  Negative Input Voltages
      1. 3.8.1 Maximum Input Current
      2. 3.8.2 Phase Reversal or Inversion
      3. 3.8.3 Protecting Inputs from Negative Voltages
        1. 3.8.3.1 Simple Resistor and Diode Clamp
        2. 3.8.3.2 Voltage Divider with Clamp
          1. 3.8.3.2.1 Split Voltage Divider with Clamp
    9. 3.9  Power-Up Behavior
    10. 3.10 Capacitors and Hysteresis
    11. 3.11 Output to Input Cross-Talk
  7. 4 Output Stage Considerations
    1. 4.1 Output VOL and IOL
    2. 4.2 Pull-Up Resistor Selection
    3. 4.3 Short Circuit Sinking Current
    4. 4.4 Pulling Output Up Above VCC
    5. 4.5 Negative Voltages Applied to Output
    6. 4.6 Adding Large Filter Capacitors To Output
  8. 5 Power Supply Considerations
    1. 5.1 Supply Bypassing
      1. 5.1.1 Low VCC Guidance
      2. 5.1.2 Split Supply use
  9. 6 General Comparator Usage
    1. 6.1 Unused Comparator Connections
      1. 6.1.1 Do Not Connect Inputs Directly to Ground
      2. 6.1.2 Unused Comparator Input Connections
      3. 6.1.3 Leave Outputs Floating
      4. 6.1.4 Prototyping
  10. 7 PSPICE and TINA TI Models
  11. 8 Conclusion
  12. 9 Related Documentation
    1. 9.1 Related Links
  13. 10Revision History

3.7.1 Both Inputs Above Input Range Behavior

If both inputs exceed the upper input voltage range (Vin > Vcc - 1.5V), both I1 and I2 are cut off, so Q7 remains off, which allows the base of Q8 to be pulled-up and saturate, pulling the output low.

For the classic devices, when the inputs exceed the upper input range, the output goes Low. Because of the Section 3.2 in the B devices, adding an inversion, the B devices output will go high.

Because the inputs have no internal clamp or ESD diodes to VCC, the input voltage can go up to a maximum of 36 V. If the inputs exceed about VCC-1V, the input will block current flow due to the reverse biased base-emitter junctions in the input PNP transistors and associated blocking diodes D2 or D4. Current flow is blocked even if VCC equals 0 V. If either input or both inputs exceed the maximum 36 V VCC rating, junction breakdown can occur. This can lead to permanent device damage per the table notes in the respective device's data sheet Absolute Maximum Ratings table.

If either input is lower than –0.3 V with respect to the negative supply, excessive input current can flow in the substrate and the output can display phase reversal, also called inversion. See the Negative Input Voltages in the following section for further information.